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<blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5129387" data-attributes="member: 18253">I think I made it clear that there was an availability component earlier in the post.&nbsp;You are correct, though, that magic would likely reduce the cost of construction as well as attack which would affect the economics. Although the older versions of D&amp;D allowed for a ridicuously small amount of earth or stone to be effected. It always seemed the original creators where a little weak on geometry. Dig in particular, IIRC, did not move much volume.&nbsp;As a related note, while I've never actually worked it out as a game mechanic, IMCs I've always assumed that dwarves and other deep delvers had ways of creating the type of underground chambers you have in the Tolkien world ('cause I like that stuff <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />). And such construction methods would also be quite useful for both excavating dungeons as well as mining fortifications.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Haltherrion, post: 5129387, member: 18253"] I think I made it clear that there was an availability component earlier in the post. You are correct, though, that magic would likely reduce the cost of construction as well as attack which would affect the economics. Although the older versions of D&D allowed for a ridicuously small amount of earth or stone to be effected. It always seemed the original creators where a little weak on geometry. Dig in particular, IIRC, did not move much volume. As a related note, while I've never actually worked it out as a game mechanic, IMCs I've always assumed that dwarves and other deep delvers had ways of creating the type of underground chambers you have in the Tolkien world ('cause I like that stuff :)). And such construction methods would also be quite useful for both excavating dungeons as well as mining fortifications. [/QUOTE]

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