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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arrowhawk" data-source="post: 5701324" data-attributes="member: 6679551">I believe such a bit of fiction would be counterproductive to your intended purpose.  The other DM would argue that this is exactly what must occur for people to gauge each other's comparitive strength as opposed to referring to one's level.  His believe is that no one conceptualizes it as levels.   He used an analogy to football and asked what level is Tom Brady.  Despite my explaining that football is not analogous to being a Fighter or a Wizard (because nothing is - classes sometimes get "spell-like abilities" when they reach various levels.  Nobody in our reality has spell like abilities.), this is the mindset with which he approaches the game.</blockquote>