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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 6763129" data-attributes="member: 29398">I was actually thinking of 1e, where 9th is name level and 5th is halfway there.  5e (or 4e) tiers work as well.True. Which might mean they might as well be adventurers anyway, depending how dangerous long-range travel is in that game.Nouveau-riche merchants would probably be hanging out at the poncy high-class place where the other rich merchants hang out, not at a spit-and-sawdust just up from the docks.Which is just another word for adventurers, or wanna-be adventurers. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Stereotypes are there for a reason (and aren't childish at all, thanks); and if a crew like this walks into a dockside bar they'll probably be pinned as adventurers whether they really are or not, with the chances of accuracy well in the pinner's favour.To each their own...No, is isn't, but the original example given somewhere back there was an adventuring party (I've been assuming a party just in out of the field and thus not just meeting for the first time) going into a bar and being quickly identified as adventurers. IME if I use the cliches as a foundation and then vary off them a bit now and then it works better than when I try to avoid them completely.You've jumped a bit here.  I can recognize a wizard-type as her class by dress but that gives me no idea what she's capable of.No, but they could observe said warrior attacking that quickly and vaguely realize she has a certain degree of skill - clearly better than Bob the trainee, but not as good as Kariana - not yet.Assuming, of course, that no character will take pride in what it is and-or can do.That wouldn't get far in my game...mithral is ungodly expensive and I long ago did away with the idea that all Elves gain auto-proficiency with sword and bow.  All I know is if I'm playing a warrior she's in the heaviest armour she can afford!Fair enough; that's how you roll.  What does your Pally's deity think of such concealment of affiliation?Well, I've had a whole long time to "think it through" and I still say class is a real thing in the game world, much like one's profession is a real thing IRL only more obvious in some cases.  If I see a guy walking down the street wearing paint-stained jeans-and-tee, a hard hat, and a 25-pound belt of assorted tools I'm guessing he's a tradesman.  I might not right away know *what* trade, or what his level of skill/training is (though 30 seconds' observation of the state of the tools might give me a few clues), but chances are high his profession isn't banker.Lan-"card-carrying member of the Fighters' union"-efan</blockquote>

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