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<blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 6764101" data-attributes="member: 5038"><p>A DM with a consistant vision of the tone and flavor of the setting. Setting is not story. Story is what happens by the characters through their actions in the setting. Two different things that your are conflating. </p><p></p><p>Furthermore, just because the game includes something does not mean they exist in every campaign. It is stated, explicitly, in the Player's Book tells players to talk with the DM about the setting he or she is running. The reason is that there are way too many influences that people can bring. Some people are influenced by Arthurian tales, some by classic swords and sorcerery (REH, Leiber, Moorcock), others visions are influenced by Lord of the Rings, others still by 80's fantasy movies (Archer and the Sorceress, Conan, Dragonslayer, Excalibur, and/or Ladyhawk), others by anime, others by videogames (Final Fantasy, Everquest, and Warcraft), and still others by more modern fantasy or even specific rpg settings). With these influences come certain expectations as to what should be included and what is not. However what is included and excluded influences the feel of the setting. Therefore, not everything can be included if the DM is going for a specific style/tone of fantasy. All of the different influences is also why it is usually not enough for a DM to say, "Hey, I am running D&D make up a character and come play". </p><p></p><p>So, f what you want included is left out, tt does not mean the DM is telling a story and the player has no influence. It means that you and the DM most likely have different influences want something completely different in tone/style from one another in play .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg K, post: 6764101, member: 5038"] A DM with a consistant vision of the tone and flavor of the setting. Setting is not story. Story is what happens by the characters through their actions in the setting. Two different things that your are conflating. Furthermore, just because the game includes something does not mean they exist in every campaign. It is stated, explicitly, in the Player's Book tells players to talk with the DM about the setting he or she is running. The reason is that there are way too many influences that people can bring. Some people are influenced by Arthurian tales, some by classic swords and sorcerery (REH, Leiber, Moorcock), others visions are influenced by Lord of the Rings, others still by 80's fantasy movies (Archer and the Sorceress, Conan, Dragonslayer, Excalibur, and/or Ladyhawk), others by anime, others by videogames (Final Fantasy, Everquest, and Warcraft), and still others by more modern fantasy or even specific rpg settings). With these influences come certain expectations as to what should be included and what is not. However what is included and excluded influences the feel of the setting. Therefore, not everything can be included if the DM is going for a specific style/tone of fantasy. All of the different influences is also why it is usually not enough for a DM to say, "Hey, I am running D&D make up a character and come play". So, f what you want included is left out, tt does not mean the DM is telling a story and the player has no influence. It means that you and the DM most likely have different influences want something completely different in tone/style from one another in play . [/QUOTE]
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