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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6780541" data-attributes="member: 92511">In Mentzer's Basic EVERY class has the following entry in the explanation/description of the class, but I'll just use the Cleric on page 24, since it comes up first:&lt;bolding mine&gt;Since every class has level-titles to use, &quot;when talking with other characters&quot; [note: not other players, other characters] for the rest of BECM and, as I only have the Expert rules for Cook/Marsh, I am going to go out on a limb and say something to this effect and the lists of level titles must have appeared in the [Cook/Marsh] Basic version as well. (Don't have the Holmes so can't really say, but I'm guessing/betting there were level titles there, too.)It is quite clear that, you are correct, it is not &quot;implied, that characters have a concept of class.&quot; It is explicitly stated outright...from at least Cook/Marsh on.Since the AD&amp;D books all give level titles to use as well, this isn't some huge conceptual leap to make or original/new/sudden/unusual way to view/play the game [in the narrative]. It was the default assumption.That you [the general &quot;you&quot;/anyone] didn't do that and played differently...great. No one's taking that away from you. No one is saying &quot;you did it wrong.&quot; But the idea/position &quot;The game didn't/doesn't/never did say this&quot; is blatantly and objectively false.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6780541, member: 92511"] In Mentzer's Basic EVERY class has the following entry in the explanation/description of the class, but I'll just use the Cleric on page 24, since it comes up first: <bolding mine> Since every class has level-titles to use, "when talking with other characters" [note: not other players, other characters] for the rest of BECM and, as I only have the Expert rules for Cook/Marsh, I am going to go out on a limb and say something to this effect and the lists of level titles must have appeared in the [Cook/Marsh] Basic version as well. (Don't have the Holmes so can't really say, but I'm guessing/betting there were level titles there, too.) It is quite clear that, you are correct, it is [B]not[/B] "[I]implied[/I], that characters have a concept of class." It is explicitly stated outright...from at least Cook/Marsh on. Since the AD&D books all give level titles to use as well, this isn't some huge conceptual leap to make or original/new/sudden/unusual way to view/play the game [in the narrative]. It was the default assumption. That you [the general "you"/anyone] didn't do that and played differently...great. No one's taking that away from you. No one is saying "you did it wrong." But the idea/position "The game didn't/doesn't/never did say this" is blatantly and objectively false. [/QUOTE]

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