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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 6780793" data-attributes="member: 7635">Whereas I find that removing the idea of classes sharing common, identifiable traits waters them down to nothing but "starting packages" of mechanics at best renders the term used to describe the class meaningless and at worst abusable by min-maxers. The idea that a member of the Paladin class wouldn't think of himself as a paladin, use that term to describe himself, or find commonalities with other members of the Paladin class is too much for me to swallow. I'd rather deal with characters introducing themselves as "Bob the Fighter" than have Warlocks joining "Wizard" Guilds, "Druid" Circles with no actual Druids in them, or Assassins wandering around calling themselves "Paladins".In short: I want the name on the Tin (class) to represent what's inside the can (character).</blockquote>