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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 6793443" data-attributes="member: 6698278">Okay I didn't understand your response.  I had knee surgery recently and maybe it's the meds <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />.I've never been a big fan of the NPCs following different rules than the PCs when they are class based.  When 3e introduced the NPC classes I generally ignored them.  I don't play 5e nor 4e so forgive me if I can't comment on those systems.I considered monsters as their own unique entities though I did add classes to monsters where appropriate in 3e.Now.  When I say that the classes can be known, I'm not saying that every single person in the fantasy world can identify someone's class easily.   Of course there are many in a world who wouldn't know a class and that was true for me throughout the history of my gaming.   I'm just saying that there exists a theoretical person who could figure the classes out because they are knowable in the context of the world.   There has been many occasions when a bad guy whipped out something unexpectedly and my PC's suddenly realized they were dealing with a potential different class than they originally thought.I do though think that a wizard pc is going to recognize a fellow wizard fairly quickly *most* of the time.   Of course if the other wizard is taking great efforts to disguise that he is a wizard then that won't be true.</blockquote>

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