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<blockquote data-quote="takasi" data-source="post: 4448264" data-attributes="member: 20194">If Cool Power 2 hit after Cool Power 1 then its only effect would be to weaken (save ends).&nbsp; These are multiple powers causing the same effect (daze).'Effect' when listed under a power means the power produces 'effects' that take place regardless of whether or not an attack succeeds.&nbsp; However, powers produce 'effects' even if that keyword isn't there.&nbsp; In the same section of page 59, the text reads 'Some effects impose a condition on the power's target'.&nbsp; It never reads that an effect can impose multiple conditions; it's a one-to-one definition.&nbsp; It's reasonable to rule that a power that says target a is slowed and weakened is producing two different effects with the same duration.&nbsp; The first effect is the dazed condition and the second effect is the weakened condition.Effect is also listed in the definition of 'conditions':&nbsp; A condition imposes a penalty, a vulnerability, a hindrance, or a combination of effects.&nbsp; That sentence would not make sense using Syrsuro's definition.&nbsp; Powers have effects (conditions, bonuses or other defined changes).&nbsp; Conditions also have 'effects'.&nbsp; It's a generic term.&nbsp; Powers that produce multiple conditions with the same duration (save ends) are producing multiple effects.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="takasi, post: 4448264, member: 20194"] If Cool Power 2 hit after Cool Power 1 then its only effect would be to weaken (save ends). These are multiple powers causing the same effect (daze). 'Effect' when listed under a power means the power produces 'effects' that take place regardless of whether or not an attack succeeds. However, powers produce 'effects' even if that keyword isn't there. In the same section of page 59, the text reads 'Some effects impose a condition on the power's target'. It never reads that an effect can impose multiple conditions; it's a one-to-one definition. It's reasonable to rule that a power that says target a is slowed and weakened is producing two different effects with the same duration. The first effect is the dazed condition and the second effect is the weakened condition. Effect is also listed in the definition of 'conditions': A condition imposes a penalty, a vulnerability, a hindrance, or a combination of [b]effects[/b]. That sentence would not make sense using Syrsuro's definition. Powers have effects (conditions, bonuses or other defined changes). Conditions also have 'effects'. It's a generic term. Powers that produce multiple conditions with the same duration (save ends) are producing multiple effects. [/QUOTE]

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