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<blockquote data-quote="Christian" data-source="post: 288331" data-attributes="member: 381">AbsolutelyIt's an oddity of the rules that only Protection From Evil protects against true neutral creatures, as the rules are written. But yes, that is what Protection From Evil says-personally, I think it's what all of the Protection From [Alignment] spells should say ...I'm not sure exactly what you mean. As written, the Magic Circle spell would give everyone within the circle the benefit of a Protection from [Alignment] effect. There is nothing in the spell description to suggest that beings of any kind are hedged out of the whole circle-they just can't touch anyone in it. I was suggesting that it made sense to extend the description of the spell to make a barrier around the outside of the area of effect, just for consistency. (The 'imprisonment' version of the spell creates a barrier that prevents conjured outsiders from passing from inside the circle to outside; so shouldn't the standard version create a barrier that prevents the creatures from passing from outside to inside?) But there is nothing in the spell description that even remotely suggests that conjured outsiders cannot be in the warded area, whichever interpretation you pick. If they're in, they're in. If they're out, they can't *get* in (except with a successful SR check, or via extradimensional travel-eg. a Gate), under the second interpretation. But that's a different matter, and it's a pretty broad interpretation in any case. Extending that interpretation farther is not warranted by any text in any of the Protection from [Alignment] or Magic Circle Against [Alignment] that I can see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Christian, post: 288331, member: 381"] Absolutely It's an oddity of the rules that only Protection From Evil protects against true neutral creatures, as the rules are written. But yes, that is what Protection From Evil says-personally, I think it's what all of the Protection From [Alignment] spells should say ... [b][/b] I'm not sure exactly what you mean. As written, the Magic Circle spell would give everyone within the circle the benefit of a Protection from [Alignment] effect. There is nothing in the spell description to suggest that beings of any kind are hedged out of the whole circle-they just can't touch anyone in it. I was suggesting that it made sense to extend the description of the spell to make a barrier around the outside of the area of effect, just for consistency. (The 'imprisonment' version of the spell creates a barrier that prevents conjured outsiders from passing from inside the circle to outside; so shouldn't the standard version create a barrier that prevents the creatures from passing from outside to inside?) But there is nothing in the spell description that even remotely suggests that conjured outsiders cannot be in the warded area, whichever interpretation you pick. If they're in, they're in. If they're out, they can't *get* in (except with a successful SR check, or via extradimensional travel-eg. a Gate), under the second interpretation. But that's a different matter, and it's a pretty broad interpretation in any case. Extending that interpretation farther is not warranted by any text in any of the Protection from [Alignment] or Magic Circle Against [Alignment] that I can see. [/QUOTE]

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