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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6916625" data-attributes="member: 12731">I don't even know what that means.Hey wait a minute, who said you could exclude "combination of other features or abilities"?Of course it's not too strong if you exclude that! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />That's the entire argument against the feats - that the designers have missed/overlooked/underestimated the relative ease with which you negate its downside to utilize the full brunt of its upsides!Look. If you don't look at this with an optimizer's eyes, Aaron, you will never understand why the feats are-->can be-->will be-->are too strong. And yet I say it is precisely because the analyses I have seen does not exit the white room and enter a real world (note the "a" and not a "the") they do not catch the true strength of the feats. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />You say it's impossible. Okay.Let me then tell you I have seen the impossible. And it aint pretty. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" />Bingo! Congratulations, Aaron! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Not "whomever". The other martial character. The real issue with these feats isn't that you deal OMGBBQWTF amounts of damage. The real issue with these feats is that only greatweapon and ranged character are allowed to deal OMGBBQWTF amounts of damage.If your barbarian player is only trying to keep up, I gotta tell you, your campaign isn't much like mine... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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