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Do enhancement bonuses to ability count against ability damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2660376" data-attributes="member: 35863"><p>*checks watch* Why the hell am I always late to these things? Need a better day planner. The answer I see is similar to what was said above:</p><p></p><p>The STAT cannot be moved below 0. The enhancement bonus, belt, keeps him at a calculated +4 STR, but because the stat was dumped out completely (noting that the belt isn't bein drained, nor does it keep the character alive) then he would, in fact, go belly up and turn into a Shadow.</p><p></p><p>I can't find a FAQ on it, but checking the SRD, I note that a character with an Ability score of 0 is adversely affected (in STR, this means on the ground, helpless). So the way I'm interpreting RAW, the ability modifier isn't the STR score; it's lending magical aid. The character would in fact be greased and raise as a Shadow. This is drawing the distinction between an Ability Score and your modified Ability Score.</p><p></p><p>Your Modified CON score gives you more HP yeah? Yeah. And when it goes down you lose HP yeah? Yeah. If a Berserker were to Rage, and have his CON score reduced to 2 during the Rage, then the Rage ended, he would die, yeah? Oh yeah. Very yeah. Thump. Dead. This is an interesting example because we all agree on it; we know the CON goes away, and we also know that the CON counts as part of the Stat until the effect of the Rage ends.</p><p></p><p>In the STR question, we're asking what happens in regards to a mechanical bonus (i.e., from an item), and if we look on the character sheet, what we're talking about isn't the adjusted score, but the stat itself. If that Stat is dropped to 0, then yeah, he's goin' down.</p><p></p><p>Not the fun way, but the most accurate way I can see.</p><p></p><p>LCpt. Thia Halmades</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thia Halmades, post: 2660376, member: 35863"] *checks watch* Why the hell am I always late to these things? Need a better day planner. The answer I see is similar to what was said above: The STAT cannot be moved below 0. The enhancement bonus, belt, keeps him at a calculated +4 STR, but because the stat was dumped out completely (noting that the belt isn't bein drained, nor does it keep the character alive) then he would, in fact, go belly up and turn into a Shadow. I can't find a FAQ on it, but checking the SRD, I note that a character with an Ability score of 0 is adversely affected (in STR, this means on the ground, helpless). So the way I'm interpreting RAW, the ability modifier isn't the STR score; it's lending magical aid. The character would in fact be greased and raise as a Shadow. This is drawing the distinction between an Ability Score and your modified Ability Score. Your Modified CON score gives you more HP yeah? Yeah. And when it goes down you lose HP yeah? Yeah. If a Berserker were to Rage, and have his CON score reduced to 2 during the Rage, then the Rage ended, he would die, yeah? Oh yeah. Very yeah. Thump. Dead. This is an interesting example because we all agree on it; we know the CON goes away, and we also know that the CON counts as part of the Stat until the effect of the Rage ends. In the STR question, we're asking what happens in regards to a mechanical bonus (i.e., from an item), and if we look on the character sheet, what we're talking about isn't the adjusted score, but the stat itself. If that Stat is dropped to 0, then yeah, he's goin' down. Not the fun way, but the most accurate way I can see. LCpt. Thia Halmades [/QUOTE]
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