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Do enhancement bonuses to ability count against ability damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2660565" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>From memory, there was a Sage Advice at one point in 3E that attempted to address the "belt off, belt on" trick. (It may have been a suggestion from Monte Cook, though.) It stated that an enhancement bonus has no effect on an ability score of zero.</p><p></p><p>So if the 14 Str character puts on his Gauntlets, his Str is 16; if he gets poisoned for 15 points of Str damage, his Str is 1; if he takes off his Gauntlets, his Str is 0 (and he's helpless); if someone puts his Gauntlets back on him, <em>nothing happens</em>, since the +2 enhancement bonus can't enhance a Str of 0.</p><p></p><p>Needless to say, this isn't actually supported by any written rules.</p><p></p><p>Intuitively, I want to say that someone drained to 2 by a Shadow who then removes his gauntlets would die. But I'm also inclined to say that someone drained to 2 by a Shadow and then poisoned for another two points would not die... even if someone subsequently removed his Gauntlets. So I'd be comfortable with a reading that said removing the Gauntlets wouldn't kill anyone under any circumstances.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2660565, member: 1656"] From memory, there was a Sage Advice at one point in 3E that attempted to address the "belt off, belt on" trick. (It may have been a suggestion from Monte Cook, though.) It stated that an enhancement bonus has no effect on an ability score of zero. So if the 14 Str character puts on his Gauntlets, his Str is 16; if he gets poisoned for 15 points of Str damage, his Str is 1; if he takes off his Gauntlets, his Str is 0 (and he's helpless); if someone puts his Gauntlets back on him, [i]nothing happens[/i], since the +2 enhancement bonus can't enhance a Str of 0. Needless to say, this isn't actually supported by any written rules. Intuitively, I want to say that someone drained to 2 by a Shadow who then removes his gauntlets would die. But I'm also inclined to say that someone drained to 2 by a Shadow and then poisoned for another two points would not die... even if someone subsequently removed his Gauntlets. So I'd be comfortable with a reading that said removing the Gauntlets wouldn't kill anyone under any circumstances. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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