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Do enhancement bonuses to ability count against ability damage?
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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 2660583" data-attributes="member: 1190"><p>The Anibuffs and Items grant an enhancement bonus, not an ability score change or inherent bonus. Saying that this bonus changes the score does not gel with other enhancement bonuses.</p><p></p><p>Does a suit of leather armor with +2 enhancement bonus gain an armor bonus of +4? no it has an armor bonus of +2 and an enhancement bonus of +2. Otherwise, one would be forced to wonder how leather the same thickness as all other leather armor can suddenly offer more protection. It doesn't. The magic of the enhancement does.</p><p></p><p>In most situations does this make a difference? No. For most purposes, the two are one and the same. The key however is that in an antimagic field the enhancement goes away. Moreover, you cannot place an enhancement bonus on something that does not already have a +1 armor (or shield) bonus (ie clothes). Without something already there to enhance, the enhancement has no effect.</p><p></p><p>The same is true for stat enhancement. The magic provides an augmentation to the actual stat, not a change to the stat. If a character suffers an effect that reduces the score, the score reduces, but there is no reason that a +4 enhancement bonus to strength would be counted as part of the original score, other than simplicity.</p><p></p><p>This means that a person with Dex 10 wearing gloves of dexterity would be paralyzed when she took 10 points of Dex damage (Score = 0) even though after the gloves she has a +2. The gloves have nothing to enhance, so she is paralyzed.</p><p></p><p>The same is true of the shadow example.</p><p></p><p>DC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 2660583, member: 1190"] The Anibuffs and Items grant an enhancement bonus, not an ability score change or inherent bonus. Saying that this bonus changes the score does not gel with other enhancement bonuses. Does a suit of leather armor with +2 enhancement bonus gain an armor bonus of +4? no it has an armor bonus of +2 and an enhancement bonus of +2. Otherwise, one would be forced to wonder how leather the same thickness as all other leather armor can suddenly offer more protection. It doesn't. The magic of the enhancement does. In most situations does this make a difference? No. For most purposes, the two are one and the same. The key however is that in an antimagic field the enhancement goes away. Moreover, you cannot place an enhancement bonus on something that does not already have a +1 armor (or shield) bonus (ie clothes). Without something already there to enhance, the enhancement has no effect. The same is true for stat enhancement. The magic provides an augmentation to the actual stat, not a change to the stat. If a character suffers an effect that reduces the score, the score reduces, but there is no reason that a +4 enhancement bonus to strength would be counted as part of the original score, other than simplicity. This means that a person with Dex 10 wearing gloves of dexterity would be paralyzed when she took 10 points of Dex damage (Score = 0) even though after the gloves she has a +2. The gloves have nothing to enhance, so she is paralyzed. The same is true of the shadow example. DC [/QUOTE]
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