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<blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 1738605" data-attributes="member: 5122">My players use web sometimes, but it's certainly not a game-breaker.&nbsp; For one thing, intelligent foes won't hesitate to burn the web.&nbsp; Better to take a little bit of damage than to be entangled and slaughtered.&nbsp; For another thing, the spell provides cover or total cover.&nbsp; This can be very handy for those trapped -- or not -- in the web.&nbsp; Once concession I'll make is that the DCs for breaking free are 5 points too high, especially considering that making the attempt is a full-round action.Similarly, when I played a druid, I found entangle to be useful, but with enough drawbacks that it wasn't a spell I relied on.&nbsp; The party was often hampered by the sheer size of the area affected, and the fact that the spell is non-discriminating.&nbsp; It did make the difference in a battle or two, but only with very good tactical use.As for grease ... buh?&nbsp; Grease is the perfect example of a fun first-level spell to be creative with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jeff Wilder, post: 1738605, member: 5122"] My players use [i]web[/i] sometimes, but it's certainly not a game-breaker. For one thing, intelligent foes won't hesitate to burn the web. Better to take a little bit of damage than to be entangled and slaughtered. For another thing, the spell provides cover or total cover. This can be very handy for those trapped -- or not -- in the [i]web[/i]. Once concession I'll make is that the DCs for breaking free are 5 points too high, especially considering that making the attempt is a full-round action. Similarly, when I played a druid, I found [i]entangle[/i] to be useful, but with enough drawbacks that it wasn't a spell I relied on. The party was often hampered by the sheer size of the area affected, and the fact that the spell is non-discriminating. It did make the difference in a battle or two, but only with very good tactical use. As for [i]grease[/i] ... buh? [i]Grease[/i] is the perfect example of a fun first-level spell to be creative with. [/QUOTE]

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