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Do familiars grant "real" Alertness?
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 352914" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>The actual quote is (at least from the SRD):</p><p></p><p>"While the familiar is within arm's reach, the master gains Alertness."</p><p></p><p>It is obviously a virtual and "conditional" feat and not a normal "permanent" feat. Since they explicitly had to allow virtual feats in S&F for PrC prerequisites, it's also obvious that the core rules do not sufficiently cover this issue. Any discussion on it is interpretive in nature. There are no set rules for it within the core rules.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Quite frankly, I think you are the one making a common interpretation mistake:</p><p></p><p>That of taking a partial phrase out of context. If the text said that the master gains Alertness from then on, then your interpretation would have real validity. As is, your interpretation is just that: an interpretation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You are also making a common debating mistake:</p><p></p><p>Using a totally non-sequitor example in an attempt to illustrate your point by first attempting to invalidate the debating techniques of another person. This results in obfuscation of the discussion as opposed to really discussing the issue. Btw, most people do this all of the time, myself included. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 352914, member: 2011"] The actual quote is (at least from the SRD): "While the familiar is within arm's reach, the master gains Alertness." It is obviously a virtual and "conditional" feat and not a normal "permanent" feat. Since they explicitly had to allow virtual feats in S&F for PrC prerequisites, it's also obvious that the core rules do not sufficiently cover this issue. Any discussion on it is interpretive in nature. There are no set rules for it within the core rules. Quite frankly, I think you are the one making a common interpretation mistake: That of taking a partial phrase out of context. If the text said that the master gains Alertness from then on, then your interpretation would have real validity. As is, your interpretation is just that: an interpretation. You are also making a common debating mistake: Using a totally non-sequitor example in an attempt to illustrate your point by first attempting to invalidate the debating techniques of another person. This results in obfuscation of the discussion as opposed to really discussing the issue. Btw, most people do this all of the time, myself included. :) [/QUOTE]
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