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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 353133" data-attributes="member: 2209">Loki,That is a good point that under the rules as written, you retain a feat, you just lose access to it if you do not meet the prereqs.However, your point about the alertness from a familiar is not a rules argument but a convenience argument. As written the familiar gives the wizard alertness when he is within arms reach. Not the bonuses of alertness as a ranger gains the abilities of ambidexterity and two weapon fighting but alertness period. Under the rules the wizard gains the feat.Under page 27 of the DMG if you lose access to a prereq then you lose the special abilities of a prc but not saves, hit points and BAB.So under the rules you can use your familiar to get into a class that requires alertness but you can then only use your prc abilities under certain conditions.Now for convenience angle we can talk about whether you want alertness to not count as a feat when granted by a familiar or about not losing prc abilities so that we avoid the problem of the prereqs.</blockquote>