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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Istbor" data-source="post: 6728969" data-attributes="member: 6801670">I have seen a couple of fights so far, however my amount of playtime is far far less than yours. 14 hours a week? Really? Anyhow, back on topic. One Battlemaster fighter and one Eldritch Knight.  Both seemed to contribute plenty to their respective campaigns. One had thought about multi-classing into bard but ended up staying full fighter (to level 13). I always wonder though Zard, your groups just seem to DPR centric.  I don't have that feel at any of my tables. I haven't even seen one person go for a polearm weapon to get the feat eventually. Something that I think is pretty strong for melee as you have also said.  The battlemaster did take Great weapon mastery though and kicked some pa-toot with it. Fights that he took out all the stops, he did large amounts of damage in. In terms of what other melee classes are played, I am seeing a lot of barbarians.  People seem all over the resistances to damage. Kind of say honestly, I want to see at least one berserker... I did see both a ranger and a paladin played in my groups.  The ranger (lvl 7) did very well and very much enjoyed his character.  The paladin(lvl 7), I think there was a disconnect with how the paladin worked for that player.  He came away not liking it a lot.  In contrast, I enjoyed it greatly while playing in Iserith's Roll20 transcript campaign. I do have a rogue in the Out of the Abyss campaign that I just started running.  Already did a sweet sneak attack and he is fully enjoying it (lvl 2).Party one: (lvl 7)Paladin (devotion)Ranger (Hunter)Fighter (battlemaster)Sorcerer (dragon)Cleric (tempest)Barbarian (totem)Party 2: (finished at lvl 11)Barbarian (totem)Fighter (Eldritch)Warlock (blade)Ranger (Hunter)Party 3: (lvl 2) BardBarbarian (plans on totem)FighterRogueDruidMy opinion is that it doesn't suck, nor does it outshine any other class. I have seen a lot more of class testing going on than in previous editions. Melee comfortable players are playing spell casters and ranged heroes.  The same can be said with players that I have seen traditionally gravitate to ranged or magic using classes. Again though, seeing a lot more of the barbarian class than ever before. I agree with your point on two-weapon fighting also.  Not seeing a lot of use. Makes me sad, that was one of my old favorites and it just feels very 'Meh' once you obtain a certain lvl, and especially if you have other valuable things to spend bonus on.</blockquote>

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