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<blockquote data-quote="Merchant of Shadows" data-source="post: 6729107" data-attributes="member: 65644"><p>No.</p><p></p><p>1. Action surge, fighting style, archetype features.</p><p>2. Strength based PCs don't fight at range for a long period of time. At worst they throw a javelin or two and close in for melee. They don't suck more than wizard in the middle of anti-magic field. Battle masters can trip a flyer to the ground, eldritch knights can fly themselves, champions do suck a little.</p><p>3. Yes, DEX-based melee character that are not rogues or monks tend to be underpowered. It is a good thing that fighters are usually DEX-based archers or STR-based melee beasts.</p><p>4. Fighters casting spells.</p><p>5. Sure. Unless they are sharpshooting battlemaster archers.</p><p>Fighter also get more feats/ability boosts (Having Lucky or Mage Slayer and not having it can be a big difference). Fighters are very prone to multiclassing after lvl 11-12 since then they peak out... but suck they do not. As a proud owner of Fighter 12/Ranger 4/Diviner Wizard 2/War Cleric 2 I can tell you... unleashing 200+ damage salvo at an ancient black dragon does make Tiamat raise an eyebrow and a Fighter 20 could probably do better if a bit less consistently.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merchant of Shadows, post: 6729107, member: 65644"] No. 1. Action surge, fighting style, archetype features. 2. Strength based PCs don't fight at range for a long period of time. At worst they throw a javelin or two and close in for melee. They don't suck more than wizard in the middle of anti-magic field. Battle masters can trip a flyer to the ground, eldritch knights can fly themselves, champions do suck a little. 3. Yes, DEX-based melee character that are not rogues or monks tend to be underpowered. It is a good thing that fighters are usually DEX-based archers or STR-based melee beasts. 4. Fighters casting spells. 5. Sure. Unless they are sharpshooting battlemaster archers. Fighter also get more feats/ability boosts (Having Lucky or Mage Slayer and not having it can be a big difference). Fighters are very prone to multiclassing after lvl 11-12 since then they peak out... but suck they do not. As a proud owner of Fighter 12/Ranger 4/Diviner Wizard 2/War Cleric 2 I can tell you... unleashing 200+ damage salvo at an ancient black dragon does make Tiamat raise an eyebrow and a Fighter 20 could probably do better if a bit less consistently. [/QUOTE]
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