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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6730553" data-attributes="member: 6716779">That is a bit overkill A variant human fighter could pull that off by level 6, a Paladin or Ranger by level 8. That character is gonna stink though at ranged combat and there is the overkill aspect of it as well. And also at level 6 a Paladin for example get charisma to all saves and grants that bonus to everyone else in 10'. That build I would rate about the same as a fighter in 3.5 blowing around 6 feats on a feat chain and being good at one thing and getting hosed by everything else. Here is my Paladin for example by comparison.Anton Von Salza (sword and board avenger Paladin), lvl 3.Feats Inspirational Leader, Resilient ConRolled StatsStr 17Con 16Dex 10Int 11Wis 14The DM house ruled everyone gets a feat at level 1. My damage is nothing special but I usually have hunters mark going in a dungeon or something and I have a excellent chance of keeping it up. In theory I will not get hosed as much by hold person type effects, at level 4 I plan on having 18 strength and charisma, at level 6 I rant +4 to all saves. If I come across a ranged encounter I can cast bless, in a dungeon I can cast shield of faith for 20 AC, 22 once I have full plate. The power combos in 5E are more about the synergy between the various class abilities rather than brute damage IMHO of course.  I just don't rate dealing damage that highly in 5E. I deal around 1d8+1d6+5 most of the time and I can smite if I need to (I rarely do). I know exactly how to build a high damage dealer and I suspect I would even be good at it as I know the 5E power builds as such. I have higher stats than normal due to rolling well and I am playing with newer players so I don't mind the Goliath Barbarian running around with 19 strength, 18 con, 15 dex GWF dealing uber damage. I have my suspicions said barbarian may not survive anyway (we lack a party healer) and we are about to start PotA which I know sod all about in terms of encounters, plot etc. I'm happy with my PC, just by existing I make the others in the party better. I chose my way he chose his way not sure which way is better. At least the fighter is not a beastmaster ranger or elemental monk and I like the Battlemaster Fighter and wanted to try that out but we lacked a healer so Paladin it is.</blockquote>

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