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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6730687" data-attributes="member: 6790260">So, since I and others have been quoted and interpreted as saying the Fighter sucks...when explicitly saying it doesn't...I'd like to reiterate in simple terms.The Fighter doesn't suck. It does competent damage, and is roughly as easy to optimize as any other &quot;melee&quot; combatant. It may even have a slight edge in damage, especially at very high levels. Some of this depends very heavily on optional rules, and some of those optional rules are frequent targets of nerfs (how many people complain about the power of GWM? Prior to the endless Warlord threads, that was the issue that kept eternally recurring.)However, that's pretty much where its features stop. Defensively, it's not as easy to optimize as a Paladin or Barbarian (who may not even need feats to be defensive powerhouses). In social situations, it's vastly outclassed by basically everyone else--and its extra feats are often quite easily outclassed by mere first-level spells. In exploration, Action Surge may or may not be useful, but otherwise the Fighter has diddly.So: Sucks? No. Limited? Hell yes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6730687, member: 6790260"] So, since I and others have been quoted and interpreted as saying the Fighter sucks...when explicitly saying it doesn't...I'd like to reiterate in simple terms. The Fighter doesn't suck. It does competent damage, and is roughly as easy to optimize as any other "melee" combatant. It may even have a slight edge in damage, especially at very high levels. Some of this depends very heavily on optional rules, and some of those optional rules are frequent targets of nerfs (how many people complain about the power of GWM? Prior to the endless Warlord threads, [I]that[/I] was the issue that kept eternally recurring.) However, that's pretty much where its features stop. Defensively, it's not as easy to optimize as a Paladin or Barbarian (who may not even need feats to be defensive powerhouses). In social situations, it's vastly outclassed by basically everyone else--and its extra feats are often quite easily outclassed by mere first-level spells. In exploration, Action Surge may or may not be useful, but otherwise the Fighter has diddly. So: Sucks? No. Limited? Hell yes. [/QUOTE]

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