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Do i grapple the right way ?
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<blockquote data-quote="Monsterknuffel" data-source="post: 4384480" data-attributes="member: 73728"><p>Hi <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>I read the part about grappling over and over again, but i still think i dont get it correct. </p><p> </p><p>Example:</p><p>Lvl 3 Fighter (with only 1 attack) grapples with an orc</p><p>The Fighter has no Feats which could improve grapple.</p><p> </p><p>Step 1: I make a normal melee attack roll. The atk roll is higher then the orcs AC. The melee attack roll doesn´t lead to damage right now.</p><p> </p><p>Step 2: The Orc makes an Attack of Opportunity (AoO) that misses the fighter.</p><p> </p><p>Step 3: I make a melee touch attack roll that which is higher than the Orcs Touch AC</p><p> </p><p>Step 4: Now i can make a hold. The Orc and I make opposed grapple checks. The fighter wins. Now the fighter can make a hold, and unarmed damage to the orc once.</p><p> </p><p>Step 5: Now i have a hold and can maintain the grapple. Therefore i have to move into the Orcs space.</p><p>The text says something about AoOs. If i move, enemys standing aroun us can make an AoO. Are they allowed an AoO if I (The Fighter) just move 1 square ?</p><p>Can you tell me some examples when it is not possible to enter the enemys square ?</p><p> </p><p>Step 6: If i can maintain the grapple, my turn is over now when i just have one atack and i have to wait until my next round to be able to use one of the grapple options.</p><p> </p><p>If i am a 6th lvl Fighter with 2 attacks and i made it successfull to step 5 (Maintain the Grapple). I can now choose between the grapple options like "Damage Opponent", "Move" or "Pin the Opponent" with my 2nd attack throw. and with a lower bab modifier for the grapple check.</p><p> </p><p>Now is my second turn. Is it correct how i want to proceed?</p><p> </p><p>I don´t have to repeat any of the Steps, given in the "Starting a Grapple" part and can do the Grapple Options. (I have to make the opposed grapple checks if i want to do something like that)</p><p>-------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Another Example (now on the monsters side) (Question about constrict).</p><p>Constrictor Snake vs Lvl 4 Fighter</p><p> </p><p>Step 1: Successful attack roll with the bite. Does the bite attack deal damage right now ?</p><p> </p><p>Thanks to "Improved Grab" i can proceed to Step 4:</p><p>The snake wins the opposed grapple checks and makes damage :</p><p>Bite Damage + Constrict damage. Is this correct ?</p><p> </p><p>Step 5: Maintain Grapple: Success</p><p> </p><p>Step 6: I cant use grapple options because I have only 1 attack. (For example: Move with the grappled Fighter into my burrow)</p><p> </p><p>Now its the fighters turn and he trys to escape t he grapple with an opposed grapple check.</p><p>The Snake wins the grapple check. Does the snake make Constrict Damage now ?</p><p> </p><p>Snake´s 2nd turn: The snake wants to damage the the opponent.</p><p>The snake wins the opposed grapple check and deals Bite Damage + Constrict damage to its opponent.</p><p>What if the snake wants to move the enemy? If she wins the opposed grapple check, does the snake move the enemy and in addition constrict damage ?</p><p> </p><p>I hope i could cover all my questions. If not, i will add them ^^</p><p>I hope you ´don´t have problems with my english x_X</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Monsterknuffel, post: 4384480, member: 73728"] Hi :D I read the part about grappling over and over again, but i still think i dont get it correct. Example: Lvl 3 Fighter (with only 1 attack) grapples with an orc The Fighter has no Feats which could improve grapple. Step 1: I make a normal melee attack roll. The atk roll is higher then the orcs AC. The melee attack roll doesn´t lead to damage right now. Step 2: The Orc makes an Attack of Opportunity (AoO) that misses the fighter. Step 3: I make a melee touch attack roll that which is higher than the Orcs Touch AC Step 4: Now i can make a hold. The Orc and I make opposed grapple checks. The fighter wins. Now the fighter can make a hold, and unarmed damage to the orc once. Step 5: Now i have a hold and can maintain the grapple. Therefore i have to move into the Orcs space. The text says something about AoOs. If i move, enemys standing aroun us can make an AoO. Are they allowed an AoO if I (The Fighter) just move 1 square ? Can you tell me some examples when it is not possible to enter the enemys square ? Step 6: If i can maintain the grapple, my turn is over now when i just have one atack and i have to wait until my next round to be able to use one of the grapple options. If i am a 6th lvl Fighter with 2 attacks and i made it successfull to step 5 (Maintain the Grapple). I can now choose between the grapple options like "Damage Opponent", "Move" or "Pin the Opponent" with my 2nd attack throw. and with a lower bab modifier for the grapple check. Now is my second turn. Is it correct how i want to proceed? I don´t have to repeat any of the Steps, given in the "Starting a Grapple" part and can do the Grapple Options. (I have to make the opposed grapple checks if i want to do something like that) ------------------------------------------------------- Another Example (now on the monsters side) (Question about constrict). Constrictor Snake vs Lvl 4 Fighter Step 1: Successful attack roll with the bite. Does the bite attack deal damage right now ? Thanks to "Improved Grab" i can proceed to Step 4: The snake wins the opposed grapple checks and makes damage : Bite Damage + Constrict damage. Is this correct ? Step 5: Maintain Grapple: Success Step 6: I cant use grapple options because I have only 1 attack. (For example: Move with the grappled Fighter into my burrow) Now its the fighters turn and he trys to escape t he grapple with an opposed grapple check. The Snake wins the grapple check. Does the snake make Constrict Damage now ? Snake´s 2nd turn: The snake wants to damage the the opponent. The snake wins the opposed grapple check and deals Bite Damage + Constrict damage to its opponent. What if the snake wants to move the enemy? If she wins the opposed grapple check, does the snake move the enemy and in addition constrict damage ? I hope i could cover all my questions. If not, i will add them ^^ I hope you ´don´t have problems with my english x_X [/QUOTE]
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