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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5924650" data-attributes="member: 17106">Are you suggesting that if one character has substantially better ability scores than another character, it shouldn't matter? I would hope that if my fighter has 12 Str and yours has 18, yours will beat mine down in a straight-up melee. Moreover, I would hope that this 18 Str fighter could reliably grapple an 8 Str wizard of any level (if he could get close enough). How strong, agile, tough, smart, wise, and charismatic your character is should be more important than anything; it's really what the game is built around, which is what the 5e writers have correctly identified.What is important, though, is making sure that all six ability scores mean something, which is where 3e does not do a good job, 4e does worse, and basically every edition of D&amp;D has failed at. If all six ability scores mean something, characters don't get really imbalanced unless their total weight of ability scores is different.The six-save concept is a good thing, but there is a lot more work to be done on this front.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 5924650, member: 17106"] Are you suggesting that if one character has substantially better ability scores than another character, it [I]shouldn't[/I] matter? I would hope that if my fighter has 12 Str and yours has 18, yours will beat mine down in a straight-up melee. Moreover, I would hope that this 18 Str fighter could reliably grapple an 8 Str wizard [I]of any level[/I] (if he could get close enough). How strong, agile, tough, smart, wise, and charismatic your character is should be more important than anything; it's really what the game is built around, which is what the 5e writers have correctly identified. What is important, though, is making sure that all six ability scores mean something, which is where 3e does not do a good job, 4e does worse, and basically every edition of D&D has failed at. If all six ability scores mean something, characters don't get really imbalanced unless their total weight of ability scores is different. The six-save concept is a good thing, but there is a lot more work to be done on this front. [/QUOTE]

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