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<blockquote data-quote="Paraxis" data-source="post: 6392651" data-attributes="member: 13009">Can you back that statement up?Because, assassinate says &quot;any hit you score against a creature that is surprised is a critical hit&quot;, unconscious condition says &quot;Any attack that hits the creature is a critical hit if the attacker is within 5 feet of the creature&quot;, and magic missile says &quot;Each dart hits a creature o f your choice that you can see within range. A dart deals 1d4+1 force damage to its target. The darts all strike simultaneously, and you can direct them to hit on e creature or several.&quot; I understand that in older editions the term &quot;hit&quot; meant it required an attack roll, I have played for a very long time.&nbsp; But we can't take our preconceptions from older editions and apply them to 5th.&nbsp; There is no rule in 5e saying that only an attack roll can crit.Sure do I think the designers wanted magic missile to crit in those instances no.&nbsp; But that is not my fault, it is poor wording and using a mix of natural language and key terms, 4e was much clearer in the rules.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Paraxis, post: 6392651, member: 13009"] Can you back that statement up? Because, assassinate says "any [B]hit [/B]you score against a creature that is surprised is a critical hit", unconscious condition says "Any attack that [B]hits[/B] the creature is a critical hit if the attacker is within 5 feet of the creature", and magic missile says "Each dart[B] hits[/B] a creature o f your choice that you can see within range. A dart deals 1d4+1 force damage to its target. The darts all strike simultaneously, and you can direct them to [B]hit [/B]on e creature or several." I understand that in older editions the term "hit" meant it required an attack roll, I have played for a very long time. But we can't take our preconceptions from older editions and apply them to 5th. There is no rule in 5e saying that only an attack roll can crit. Sure do I think the designers wanted magic missile to crit in those instances no. But that is not my fault, it is poor wording and using a mix of natural language and key terms, 4e was much clearer in the rules. [/QUOTE]

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