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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 6399431" data-attributes="member: 762">Monks can do some neat stuff with ki:Dodge as a free action - very useful.Disengage, dash, double jump as a free action - also good.Flurry of blows - essentially 1 extra attack in the round, damage is small because it's unarmed strike, but still three attacks in 1 round.The monastic tradition powers - tripping, forced movement and spell powers, some are quite good.Problem is, all of these (excepting a few of the spell powers) take ki to do 1 thing for 1 round (or even only 1 action). That means, at low levels, the monk will burn through all his ki in about half of 1 encounter if he's not careful, and even if he is careful the ki will go very fast. Contrary to, for example, the barbarian, who also has a limited resource (rage) but one that will likely last all or at least most of the encounter if the barbarian chooses to trigger it (and has many more effects for the 1 use than a monks ki point).This was ok(ish) when a short rest was 5 minutes, but when it's an hour? The monk will likely go several encounters with no ki and that just seems extremely harsh for a class that depends on it for effect.Obviously, as DM, I can muck with the short rest times as much as I like, but I'm just wondering if I'm missing something big that equalizes the monk.Thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mort, post: 6399431, member: 762"] Monks can do some neat stuff with ki: Dodge as a free action - very useful. Disengage, dash, double jump as a free action - also good. Flurry of blows - essentially 1 extra attack in the round, damage is small because it's unarmed strike, but still three attacks in 1 round. The monastic tradition powers - tripping, forced movement and spell powers, some are quite good. Problem is, all of these (excepting a few of the spell powers) take ki to do 1 thing for 1 round (or even only 1 action). That means, at low levels, the monk will burn through all his ki in about half of 1 encounter if he's not careful, and even if he is careful the ki will go very fast. Contrary to, for example, the barbarian, who also has a limited resource (rage) but one that will likely last all or at least most of the encounter if the barbarian chooses to trigger it (and has many more effects for the 1 use than a monks ki point). This was ok(ish) when a short rest was 5 minutes, but when it's an hour? The monk will likely go several encounters with no ki and that just seems extremely harsh for a class that depends on it for effect. Obviously, as DM, I can muck with the short rest times as much as I like, but I'm just wondering if I'm missing something big that equalizes the monk. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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