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<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 4846669" data-attributes="member: 50895">It might be that I don't play 4e or &quot;new school design&quot;, but this makes no sense whatsoever for me. You can't mean adversaries are just standing targets to a PCs attacks. You also can't mean that monsters/NPCs get automatic hits when they attack.How could a monster/NPC ever get a critical hit on a PC, if no dice are rolled? Do you assume the monsters get auto attacks and now the PC just rolls for defense to see if it succeeds or not.Since I'm not interested in the potential of 4e enough to buy their books just to find out (I don't have an &quot;everfull&quot; wallet, so I have to pick and choose what gaming material I spend my cash on) I do visit Gleemax and reading discussions I try to get a feel for what its all about - but the game makes no sense to me whatsoever.Perhaps its best I stay out of the conversation. But the more I hear about 4e and to questions like this one posed in this thread - it makes even less sense as time goes on.Not trying to do Edition War here, as I have no idea about 4e. But its questions like this, that make me not want to learn more. It seems pretty silly - the question posed, not the game itself.GP</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 4846669, member: 50895"] It might be that I don't play 4e or "new school design", but this makes no sense whatsoever for me. You can't mean adversaries are just standing targets to a PCs attacks. You also can't mean that monsters/NPCs get automatic hits when they attack. How could a monster/NPC ever get a critical hit on a PC, if no dice are rolled? Do you assume the monsters get auto attacks and now the PC just rolls for defense to see if it succeeds or not. Since I'm not interested in the potential of 4e enough to buy their books just to find out (I don't have an "everfull" wallet, so I have to pick and choose what gaming material I spend my cash on) I do visit Gleemax and reading discussions I try to get a feel for what its all about - but the game makes no sense to me whatsoever. Perhaps its best I stay out of the conversation. But the more I hear about 4e and to questions like this one posed in this thread - it makes even less sense as time goes on. Not trying to do Edition War here, as I have no idea about 4e. But its questions like this, that make me not want to learn more. It seems pretty silly - the question posed, not the game itself. GP [/QUOTE]

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