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<blockquote data-quote="StGabriel" data-source="post: 446395" data-attributes="member: 8225"><p><strong>bah</strong></p><p></p><p>What's this? Just do more adventures? We've done four already. Yes, it will even out eventually but so what? Are you saying that D&D is just broken for low levels, so everyone should start at level 5??? No of course you aren't your just being argument for the sake of it. *snicker*</p><p></p><p>Whether the archer taking down the green dragon solo is a parody or not, this is a tactic supported by a auto-fail on 1 rule. By talking about an auto-fail on 1 you already have to be talking about pretty obscure situations. You arguing that the points I am talking about are not ones that would come up in D&D is hardly relevant when we are talking about a rule that is only relevant in exactly those kinds of obscure situations. A first level spell with say a DC of 13 will only successfully be saved on with a roll of 1 by someone who is rather a lot higher in level. 1 vs. 30 or 1 vs. 12. Either way.</p><p></p><p>By making such an arbitrary rule you create a world where any small-time punk has a 1 in 20 chance of landing a spell on Mr. Badass. The rules of D&D are the physics of its world. Yes I can alter them as I like if I don't like a rule but I thought this was a forum for discussion, and I'm simply discussing my point of view here.</p><p></p><p>With respect to your line about idiosyncrasies in D&D. Umm, you say there are many. I'm pointing to one. What's the problem here? Is it not good enough for your high standards? Fine, read the next post.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>Little more on our characters. The ranger is not heavily trained really. But he has been through basic training with weapons etc. He has weapon focus with his spear, it's safe to assume he does know how to use it rather well even if he's not a real expert yet. His performance so far though has been laughable. The wizard is just that. A scholarly type with no real background in weaponry that picked up a crossbow before traveling. We're not expecting too much out of them, but the ranger being able to consistently fight better over his first few levels might be nice. </p><p></p><p>---</p><p>StGabriel, the Taoist saint.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StGabriel, post: 446395, member: 8225"] [b]bah[/b] What's this? Just do more adventures? We've done four already. Yes, it will even out eventually but so what? Are you saying that D&D is just broken for low levels, so everyone should start at level 5??? No of course you aren't your just being argument for the sake of it. *snicker* Whether the archer taking down the green dragon solo is a parody or not, this is a tactic supported by a auto-fail on 1 rule. By talking about an auto-fail on 1 you already have to be talking about pretty obscure situations. You arguing that the points I am talking about are not ones that would come up in D&D is hardly relevant when we are talking about a rule that is only relevant in exactly those kinds of obscure situations. A first level spell with say a DC of 13 will only successfully be saved on with a roll of 1 by someone who is rather a lot higher in level. 1 vs. 30 or 1 vs. 12. Either way. By making such an arbitrary rule you create a world where any small-time punk has a 1 in 20 chance of landing a spell on Mr. Badass. The rules of D&D are the physics of its world. Yes I can alter them as I like if I don't like a rule but I thought this was a forum for discussion, and I'm simply discussing my point of view here. With respect to your line about idiosyncrasies in D&D. Umm, you say there are many. I'm pointing to one. What's the problem here? Is it not good enough for your high standards? Fine, read the next post. --- Little more on our characters. The ranger is not heavily trained really. But he has been through basic training with weapons etc. He has weapon focus with his spear, it's safe to assume he does know how to use it rather well even if he's not a real expert yet. His performance so far though has been laughable. The wizard is just that. A scholarly type with no real background in weaponry that picked up a crossbow before traveling. We're not expecting too much out of them, but the ranger being able to consistently fight better over his first few levels might be nice. --- StGabriel, the Taoist saint. [/QUOTE]
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