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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 448528" data-attributes="member: 3570">No, but it does equate to them being pretty incompetent when statistically their foe shouldn't be able to hit them even 1 out of a 100 times.Right.  Because when a fighter with an attack bonus of +7 attacks a foe with an AC of 17, there's no luck involved.  Who's exaggerating again?  Please.  The only time luck isn't involved is when the attackers attack bonus is a whopping 20 points above the defender's AC, or spell DC vs. saving throw bonus, if you prefer.  In those cases, no, luck really isn't a factor.  Sure, there could be 1 in 10,000 anomalies, but since d20 doesn't allow for 1 in 10,000, only 1 in 20, the choice becomes what does 1 in 10,000 equate to in your game?  5%?  Or impossible?  If you make it 5%, then it becomes a small effort to take out the most powerful foes and heroes.  Since any campaign that has Green Dragons as random wandering monsters is utterly beyond stupid, any situation where a party is about to fight such a menace they know is in the area should be prepared, and all it takes is a few Poison arrows fired with Hunter's Mercy and wait for that natural 1 save to come up.  A guarantee?  No, but WAAAAY too easy.  Its equally easy for any low-mid level spellcaster against any foe without SR.  Heck, I guess most people here would advocate SR being negated on a 1 as well, so there you go.My rules keep the PC's from being complacent against dragons and near-epic monsters.  Yours keeps them from being complacent against turtles and mice.So what would you do to hamstring a 20th level Monk in your campaign.  DR 20/+1 pretty much equates to being able to slaughter a town without injury.  However, this level of power is apparently taboo (maybe you actually have a problem with your PC's slaughtering towns, I don't know, you'd never exaggerate....) so I'm curious as to whether or not your House Rules extend to any circumstance where the PC's earned a level of power as to not fear retribution from rats and monkeys.Wrong.  I'm bringing my 20th level Monk/10th level Deepwood Sniper to your next gaming session.  We need to get this worked out.</blockquote>

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