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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 448578" data-attributes="member: 1118"><p>Listen Kai, I don't tell you how to play your games - I'm just telling you to be consistent (which is sounds like you're going to do now) - so I appreciate it not to tell me how to play mine.</p><p></p><p>All these HORROR problems you're pointing out in my game haven't happened so you're not scoring points. However, I DID have a player once metagame that the guard holding a crossbow on him couldn't hit him before, so I have run into that. NEVER (and I mean since 1982) has a PC ever killed a dragon or big bad because of a natural 1. It isn't an issue for me.</p><p></p><p>Stop trying to tell me my games are wrong - it's how I've been playing since Basic D&D with no issues. All I've said to you is IF you only don't allow a natural 1 on a saving throw to be an autofailure, you're not being consistent. If you decide to get rid of autosuccess and autofails all together, I don't have an issue with it - it's your game and it's consistent.</p><p></p><p>With the ELH, I've decided to use the open ended rolls instead as there is STILL always a chance of failure or success, but skill can offset bad luck more.</p><p></p><p>Also, I want to know why you always get aggressive and attack on these forums. Your posts aren't even worth reading with the tone that you always have. Unless I'm REALLY misreading what I wrote, I don't know what I did to deserve that attack on my campaign. I WASN'T attacking yours. I just said why *I* (notice the emphasis this time) use what I use. Just because *I* do something one way doesn't equate that I think your way is WRONG (unless you have an inferiority complex or something). I was just pointing out that you needed to be consistent with your rulings.</p><p></p><p>IceBear</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 448578, member: 1118"] Listen Kai, I don't tell you how to play your games - I'm just telling you to be consistent (which is sounds like you're going to do now) - so I appreciate it not to tell me how to play mine. All these HORROR problems you're pointing out in my game haven't happened so you're not scoring points. However, I DID have a player once metagame that the guard holding a crossbow on him couldn't hit him before, so I have run into that. NEVER (and I mean since 1982) has a PC ever killed a dragon or big bad because of a natural 1. It isn't an issue for me. Stop trying to tell me my games are wrong - it's how I've been playing since Basic D&D with no issues. All I've said to you is IF you only don't allow a natural 1 on a saving throw to be an autofailure, you're not being consistent. If you decide to get rid of autosuccess and autofails all together, I don't have an issue with it - it's your game and it's consistent. With the ELH, I've decided to use the open ended rolls instead as there is STILL always a chance of failure or success, but skill can offset bad luck more. Also, I want to know why you always get aggressive and attack on these forums. Your posts aren't even worth reading with the tone that you always have. Unless I'm REALLY misreading what I wrote, I don't know what I did to deserve that attack on my campaign. I WASN'T attacking yours. I just said why *I* (notice the emphasis this time) use what I use. Just because *I* do something one way doesn't equate that I think your way is WRONG (unless you have an inferiority complex or something). I was just pointing out that you needed to be consistent with your rulings. IceBear [/QUOTE]
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