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Do negative levels reduce caster level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2800128" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Ok. I don't quite see what it has to do with the question, tho. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>If you have Practiced Spellcaster (twice for good measure), then you are a Wiz5/Sor4 with caster level 9/8. You obviously can only cast 3rd/2nd level spells.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't change the fact, however, that you cannot cast a 3rd level wizard spell with a caster level below 5.</p><p></p><p>You seem to confuse this part, that you need a minimum caster level to cast a spell with that caster level would be used to determine what spells a character can cast. These are two different things (and the latter one is false, too).</p><p></p><p>However, as I see it (after having thought about it a bit), this doesn't happen here (with the negative levels). If the character gains enough negative levels to lower the caster level to 3 (while still retaining 3rd level slots, not likely for the one with Practiced Spellcaster, but anyways <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />), then the 3rd level spell would still be cast at full caster level, but with a penalty to the effect, which reduces the effectively used caster level (for spell resistance checks, range, duration, effect, etc) to 3.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That might be a valid argumentation. In general I agree with the conclusion, as said above.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2800128, member: 478"] Ok. I don't quite see what it has to do with the question, tho. ;) If you have Practiced Spellcaster (twice for good measure), then you are a Wiz5/Sor4 with caster level 9/8. You obviously can only cast 3rd/2nd level spells. This doesn't change the fact, however, that you cannot cast a 3rd level wizard spell with a caster level below 5. You seem to confuse this part, that you need a minimum caster level to cast a spell with that caster level would be used to determine what spells a character can cast. These are two different things (and the latter one is false, too). However, as I see it (after having thought about it a bit), this doesn't happen here (with the negative levels). If the character gains enough negative levels to lower the caster level to 3 (while still retaining 3rd level slots, not likely for the one with Practiced Spellcaster, but anyways ;)), then the 3rd level spell would still be cast at full caster level, but with a penalty to the effect, which reduces the effectively used caster level (for spell resistance checks, range, duration, effect, etc) to 3. That might be a valid argumentation. In general I agree with the conclusion, as said above. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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