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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 4688976" data-attributes="member: 463">I never had the experience of published modules feeling too tough, until 3e.  That said, I had some proficient powergamer players.  And there are some old modules that I've seen more recently where the 'real' level is several higher than listed - notably the BECM module Horror on the Hill, says it's for 1st-3rd Basic PCs the pregens are 1st level, but I'd say that in that ruleset it needed a ca 4th level group to have much chance of survival.   By contrast the 1e Lankhmar modules were listed as 10-15th but were really more like 7th-10th, in line with the supplied pregens.Anyway, it's unfortunately true that WoTC has not had a good record with modules.  Why this is, I don't understand - they pay well enough to hire the best writers in the industry.</blockquote>