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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arashi Ravenblade" data-source="post: 3274796" data-attributes="member: 15630">All but one of my players prefers the complicated games. I as a Dm prefer the complicated games. And I never had understood why it takes people so long to come up with a game (Either in Prep time or in Story).In my experience older gamers or younger gamers who grew up playing older games tend to like the Rules lite games. Might not be that way everywhere, but in my neck of the woods there is a definate preference for rules lite among older groups or older game groups (though not necessarily D&D, could be any system).As far as GM skill goes, it depends. A Gm like me who has a set story but will allow you to do anything thats not totally absurd (Like building a rocket ship in FR. In that case I'll flat out say no! Want to build a Spelljammer? Fine.) seems to my group to be fun. Where the two other GM's could make a good story they dont allow much freedom. One lets you do what you want but sets up the DC's or makes the challnege so hard you cant accomplish what you wanted and the other one straight up railroads you. Neither of which is fun.</blockquote>