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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8478718" data-attributes="member: 18">It's not a plausible mechanism, as you illustrate. My real question was &quot;has this ever happened&quot;. So far no-one has answered in the affirmative (AFAIK), no witnesses in the field as either a player or a DM. I've been doing both for 30+ years and closest thing I've seen is DMs talked into running stuff that they turned out not to enjoy, it certainly wasn't social pressure or them being &quot;outvoted&quot; or &quot;overruled&quot;, rather it was the group getting hyped about something, the DM not actually objecting and instead going &quot;Yeah not what I'd normally run but let's give it a go!&quot; and it turning out that he really wasn't the person to be running [insert genre/setting here]. More often though it actually does work out, and that's fundamentally different to what was described.As for rules, I've seen heated discussions of them, sure, but again, no examples of the DM being &quot;outvoted&quot; or &quot;overruled&quot; or &quot;social pressured&quot; (which implies reluctance only overcome by fear of looking bad, not by logic or consideration/deliberation). I've changed rules after discussion with players but in cases it's because a good argument was made (haven't had to in 4E or 5E, but in earlier editions and other RPGs).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8478718, member: 18"] It's not a plausible mechanism, as you illustrate. My real question was "has this ever happened". So far no-one has answered in the affirmative (AFAIK), no witnesses in the field as either a player or a DM. I've been doing both for 30+ years and closest thing I've seen is DMs talked into running stuff that they turned out not to enjoy, it certainly wasn't social pressure or them being "outvoted" or "overruled", rather it was the group getting hyped about something, the DM not actually objecting and instead going "Yeah not what I'd normally run but let's give it a go!" and it turning out that he really wasn't the person to be running [insert genre/setting here]. More often though it actually does work out, and that's fundamentally different to what was described. As for rules, I've seen heated discussions of them, sure, but again, no examples of the DM being "outvoted" or "overruled" or "social pressured" (which implies reluctance only overcome by fear of looking bad, not by logic or consideration/deliberation). I've changed rules after discussion with players but in cases it's because a good argument was made (haven't had to in 4E or 5E, but in earlier editions and other RPGs). [/QUOTE]

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