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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8067950" data-attributes="member: 6987520">No, I got the point, I just don't agree with it personally (like you said, no wrong answers... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )I'll put it this way, comparing PC to not-PC is not constructive really if you already believe PCs are explicitly exceptional. If you feel that they are, they will be superior anyway.For me it is about PC vs PC. Do I think a STR 20 Halfling should be as strong as a STR 20 Dragonborn? NOPE! In fact, I don't think a Halfling should have a STR over 16, personally, because they are a small race. PC or not is immaterial. Does it cause some friction for the Strong Halfling Fighter? A bit maybe, but not so much I want mechanical bonuses to override how I think the "reality" of fantasy should work. Currently, a STR 16 can allow a PC to lift, drag, push, etc. 480 lbs! That is really strong already for most people. Now, make that a halfling who is 3 feet tall with an average weight of 40 lbs. Even at twice that weight you are talking about someone lifting 6 times their body weight! But that is just as a STR 16, so like WOW but not impossible. Make it a STR 20 and now you are talking 600 lbs... Sorry, but for me that is just too much barring magic, divine demi-god lineage, or something.I'd rather see racial minimums and maximums and not worry about modifiers to starting scores. I don't want the world's strongest human to be as strong as the world's strongest half-orc. Sorry, but no thank you. A STR 18 human is close enough to the STR 20 half-orc to make me happy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Now, all that being said, I know many players (most I can honestly say) either want their STR 20 Halflings or frankly really don't care one way or the other probably. From a game design perspective that is perfectly fine. I can always house-rule the game as I see fit when I DM and I am okay with that. I certainly don't expect others to have to play by my vision.Anyway, overall, I voted for the second option. If PCs have racial modifiers (as currently they do), every member of that race that are not PCs should get them as well.</blockquote>

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