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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8068150" data-attributes="member: 6779196">I’m not sure what gave you the idea that I go for a bunch of dump stats in point buy systems. I don’t know how Pathfinder’s point buy system works, but if going for a starting 17 or 18 in it is highly inefficient, I probably wouldn’t do that either. I’m still going to prioritize my class’s primary score. Secondary and tertiary scores are still worth paying attention to, obviously, they’re just a lower priority.It’s very rare that I will play a race that doesn’t at least get a +1 to my class’s primary ability. Starting without a 16 in your primary ability is rough, and the other racial features very rarely make up for it.Well, that suggestion was meant to be in place of racial ability bonuses, so you’d pick Human for the Feat and Skill. A very solid option for any class. Hypothetically though, if that were the starting array and races still have their standard ASIs, I think Human would still be a very popular choice. A feat at 1st level can be extremely valuable, potentially worth the -1 to your primary ability. And also, you could totally get an 18 by putting the one of the human ASIs into it and taking a “half-feat” that boosts it.Unless you meant non-variant human? I think I’ve seen that played exactly once, in a game where we rolled 3d6 in order for abilities, and the player got all or almost all odd rolls (can’t remember exactly, it was shortly after the release of 5e.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8068150, member: 6779196"] I’m not sure what gave you the idea that I go for a bunch of dump stats in point buy systems. I don’t know how Pathfinder’s point buy system works, but if going for a starting 17 or 18 in it is highly inefficient, I probably wouldn’t do that either. I’m still going to prioritize my class’s primary score. Secondary and tertiary scores are still worth paying attention to, obviously, they’re just a lower priority. It’s very rare that I will play a race that doesn’t at least get a +1 to my class’s primary ability. Starting without a 16 in your primary ability is rough, and the other racial features very rarely make up for it. Well, that suggestion was meant to be in place of racial ability bonuses, so you’d pick Human for the Feat and Skill. A very solid option for any class. Hypothetically though, if that were the starting array and races still have their standard ASIs, I think Human would still be a very popular choice. A feat at 1st level can be extremely valuable, potentially worth the -1 to your primary ability. And also, you could totally get an 18 by putting the one of the human ASIs into it and taking a “half-feat” that boosts it. Unless you meant non-variant human? I think I’ve seen that played exactly once, in a game where we rolled 3d6 in order for abilities, and the player got all or almost all odd rolls (can’t remember exactly, it was shortly after the release of 5e.) [/QUOTE]

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