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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Horwath" data-source="post: 8068191" data-attributes="member: 6801299">I would like to see racial difference in ability scores on average, but I would not add ability bonuses/penalties as it messes up costs with point buy and even rolls as you need to spent much more valuable point/rolls to have the same ability as someone without penalty.So I would remove all bonuses/penalties for humanoid races that can be player characters,Make point buy from 8 to 16;score 8; cost 0,score 9; cost 1,score 10; cost 2,score 11; cost 3,score 12; cost 4,score 13; cost 5,score 14; cost 6,score 15; cost 8,score 16; cost 10,32pts available.Then add racial minimum/maximum for certain abilites at 1st level.I.E.humans; no minimums or maximums.elves: min dex 12, max con 14wood elves: min wis 10high elves: min int 10drow: min cha 10half elves: min dex 10orcs: min str 14, min con 12, max int 14, max cha 14half orcs: min str 12, min con 10dwarves: min str 10, min con 12, max dex 14, max cha 14halflings: min dex 12, max str 14gnomes: min int 12, max str 14aasimar: min wis 12, min cha 12tiefling; min dex 12, min cha 12this way there is no bonuses or penalties to your rolls/points for aiming at a certain score and keeps average ability score tilted to racial affinity.starting and maximum dexterity can be the same for humans and elves, but on average elves are more dexterous people.</blockquote>