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<blockquote data-quote="TiwazTyrsfist" data-source="post: 8068756" data-attributes="member: 70582">Certainly PCs should be exceptional, unless the point of a specific campaign is to play non-exceptional characters but that's a specific choice.I think the average member of a species should have 10/10/10/11/11/11 stat array modded by species/culture stats.I have no problem with the idea of establishing a &quot;Stat Cap&quot; and having it apply PRE species/culture stat mods.&nbsp; By which I mean, if we cap stats at 20, and Wood Elves get a +2 to Dex, Wood elves can have a Dex of 22.&nbsp; If Halflings have a Strength Penalty of -2 and Half-Orcs have a Strength Bonus of +2, then the worlds strongest Halfling maxes at 18 Str and the Half-Orc at 22.&nbsp; That seems fair to me.But I'm also fine if we DON'T do that as well.&nbsp; What I absolutely DON'T want is Stats Cap @ 20, but Elves despite not having a Con Penalty have a Con cap of 14.&nbsp; Half-Orcs have a max Int of 12 for some reason.&nbsp; None of that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TiwazTyrsfist, post: 8068756, member: 70582"] Certainly PCs should be exceptional, unless the point of a specific campaign is to play non-exceptional characters but that's a specific choice. I think the average member of a species should have 10/10/10/11/11/11 stat array modded by species/culture stats. I have no problem with the idea of establishing a "Stat Cap" and having it apply PRE species/culture stat mods. By which I mean, if we cap stats at 20, and Wood Elves get a +2 to Dex, Wood elves can have a Dex of 22. If Halflings have a Strength Penalty of -2 and Half-Orcs have a Strength Bonus of +2, then the worlds strongest Halfling maxes at 18 Str and the Half-Orc at 22. That seems fair to me. But I'm also fine if we DON'T do that as well. What I absolutely DON'T want is Stats Cap @ 20, but Elves despite not having a Con Penalty have a Con cap of 14. Half-Orcs have a max Int of 12 for some reason. None of that. [/QUOTE]

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