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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8069334" data-attributes="member: 29398">0-level characters should ideally be a thing in all versions of the game.Gygax also goes to significant trouble to tell the DM not to go too easy on the characters (and thus by extension the players).I'm not quite so sure - I always got the sense from 1e that the DM's goal was to present a setting and maybe a story and then leave it to the players, as their characters, to make what they could of it.Worth noting that the definition of &quot;high level&quot; has changed over time.&nbsp; 9th level might not sound like much in a 3e-4e-5e context but it was pretty damn high in 1e.&nbsp; Exactly!Interesting question at the last, here.&nbsp; Might be worth running sometime, using as similar of party makeups for each group as possible.I know for sure that 3rd-level 1e characters would have their donkeys kicked all round the room by an equivalent party of 1st-level 4e characters if only because the 4e lot would all have, by 1e standards, stupendous numbers of hit points for their level.&nbsp; 5e dialled that back a bit but I'm not sure how far.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8069334, member: 29398"] 0-level characters should ideally be a thing in all versions of the game. Gygax also goes to significant trouble to tell the DM not to go too easy on the characters (and thus by extension the players). I'm not quite so sure - I always got the sense from 1e that the DM's goal was to present a setting and maybe a story and then leave it to the players, as their characters, to make what they could of it. Worth noting that the definition of "high level" has changed over time. 9th level might not sound like much in a 3e-4e-5e context but it was pretty damn high in 1e. Exactly! Interesting question at the last, here. Might be worth running sometime, using as similar of party makeups for each group as possible. I know for sure that 3rd-level 1e characters would have their donkeys kicked all round the room by an equivalent party of 1st-level 4e characters if only because the 4e lot would all have, by 1e standards, stupendous numbers of hit points for their level. 5e dialled that back a bit but I'm not sure how far. [/QUOTE]

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