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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8069851" data-attributes="member: 93670">Why do you keep repeating this false statement to suggest imply or outright say people want to remove them from the game in support your argument.  People can talk about removing ASIs from races without suggesting they should be removed from the game.  That much has long been clear to pretty much everyone & is so clear that the vast majority of this thread has been after the knowledge they would be moved elsewhere was established as a fact preventing the need to constantly include that they should be added elsewhere while saying why race is a poor location for them.  [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]  made that even more clear by giving a vague description of what would be in place <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/where-to-put-ability-bonuses-during-character-creation.674064/post-8068930" target="_blank">here</a> in the character creation thread.  Specifically he said this in the spoiler, so relax [spoiler="Background has two +1 ASIs, one set, one floating"]So here's what our first playtest packet might look like (we've started work on it).NOTE -- playtest packet means we're looking for the good and the bad. If it doesn't work for you, that's data. If it does, that's also data. Above all, we want data.So...<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Heritage has a feat instead of ASI</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Culture contains the non 'biological' aspects of what was once 'race'</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Background has two +1 ASIs, one set, one floating</li> </ul>The model looks like this:Heritage -- Elf - bio stuff, feat...Culture -- wood elf...Culture -- high elf...Culture -- dark elf...Culture -- (new elf)Background - (inc ASIs)+ some 'general' Cultures (like Cosmopolitan, Lone Wanderer, Nomad)Any Heritage can take any Culture and any Background (if the [GM*] agrees).We refer to these three building blocks as your 'Origin'. As in, everything before your first class level.*Working on our term for that.[/spoiler]</blockquote>

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