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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8070268" data-attributes="member: 29398">Which right there is a serious system flaw that needs fixing.&nbsp; Char-gen at any level should be fast and reasonably simple, once one is halfway familiar with the system.In the way 3e does them, I largely agree.But here I disagree.&nbsp; A DM can use whatever method she likes for dreaming up NPCs (e.g. just assign stats instead of roll) but if the end result would be a PC-playable species yet impossible to generate or achieve using PC rules it should also be impossible as an NPC of the same species.&nbsp; On the flip side, if a PC can do it or be it then so can an NPC of the same species.A simple example: if you put level limits on demi-human PCs in your setting such that, say, Elves can't go higher than 10th level in Bard, your players have a right to be truly hacked off if you introduce them to a 15th-level NPC Elven Bard in that campaign.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 8070268, member: 29398"] Which right there is a serious system flaw that needs fixing. Char-gen at any level should be fast and reasonably simple, once one is halfway familiar with the system. In the way 3e does them, I largely agree. But here I disagree. A DM can use whatever method she likes for dreaming up NPCs (e.g. just assign stats instead of roll) but if the end result would be a PC-playable species yet impossible to generate or achieve using PC rules it should also be impossible as an NPC of the same species. On the flip side, if a PC can do it or be it then so can an NPC of the same species. A simple example: if you put level limits on demi-human PCs in your setting such that, say, Elves can't go higher than 10th level in Bard, your players have a right to be truly hacked off if you introduce them to a 15th-level NPC Elven Bard in that campaign. [/QUOTE]

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