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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8070559" data-attributes="member: 7025508">Whoa, what a thread!I am afraid that the poll is flawed as it conflating two separate issues, thus any results will be next to worthless. A lot of arguments in the first twenty pages of so was due this.I think the characters should be 'exceptional' in a sense that they're better than an average commoner. This effectively means having a higher point buy total or more generous rolling method than the said commoner. However, PCs certainly aren't only such 'exceptional' or 'gifted' individuals in the setting, important NPCs, be they allies or foes can be such too.But the PCs shouldn't be 'exceptional' in the sense that they can be anything at all. They and NPCs alike should have same species rules applied to them. So yes, perhaps you can imagine a halfling that is a larger than average and has spent their whole life lifting weights. They will be exceptionally strong, and that will be achieved by putting 15 in their strength; they will be exceptionally strong for a halfling and pretty damn strong for anyone. But the same things that made that halfling exceptional can apply to an half-orc too and a larger than average half-orc who has spent their whole life lifting weights will be stronger than that super strong halfling and have strength of 17. And letting that halfling to have that same +2 to strength than the half-orc gets would make just as much sense than letting that half-orc to have wings like aarakochra, because, hey the PCs are exceptional!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8070559, member: 7025508"] Whoa, what a thread! I am afraid that the poll is flawed as it conflating two separate issues, thus any results will be next to worthless. A lot of arguments in the first twenty pages of so was due this. I think the characters should be 'exceptional' in a sense that they're better than an average commoner. This effectively means having a higher point buy total or more generous rolling method than the said commoner. However, PCs certainly aren't only such 'exceptional' or 'gifted' individuals in the setting, important NPCs, be they allies or foes can be such too. But the PCs shouldn't be 'exceptional' in the sense that they can be anything at all. They and NPCs alike should have same species rules applied to them. So yes, perhaps you can imagine a halfling that is a larger than average and has spent their whole life lifting weights. They will be exceptionally strong, and that will be achieved by putting 15 in their strength; they will be exceptionally strong for a halfling and pretty damn strong for anyone. But the same things that made that halfling exceptional can apply to an half-orc too and a larger than average half-orc who has spent their whole life lifting weights will be stronger than that super strong halfling and have strength of 17. And letting that halfling to have that same +2 to strength than the half-orc gets would make just as much sense than letting that half-orc to have wings like aarakochra, because, hey the PCs are exceptional! [/QUOTE]

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