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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3121966" data-attributes="member: 18363">For some it is, for others it isn't. Really, for situations such as the Sorcerer, I think the main issue is not so much the lack of filled levels, but the fact that they can 'safely' join any PrC that has full progression (as most caster PrCs due, and most of those that don't only lose a single level or two at most, usually). Unlike the Wizard, who loses bonus feats to gain all those PrC goodies, the Sorcerer loses nothing. In most respects, the PrCs are all but a requirement for a Sorcerer, as for many of them it is little more than 'tac these on as if they were already listed special abilities' since they are not, in fact, replacing anything. No offence intended, but the Cleric is not balanced. Those that created the class were trying to lump two archtypes together - the miraculously powerful priest and the divine warrior. I think the Cloistered Cleric (poor bab, light armor only, no shields, etc) should be used instead of the typical cleric, and I think the 'holy warrior' should be represented by taking a normal cleric and reducing casting to something akin to the bard (ie: only six levels worth) and have spontaneous curing / inflicting removed. Then I think the archtypes would be 'balanced'. The cleric as is is broken and should be always replaced with the Cloistered Cleric. But that is for another thread, one that has been argued ad nausium several times before. It depends on the ability. Gaining Turning Undead at third level (as with a Paladin) may seem quite useful and interesting, but before divine feats came out that made use of Turning attempts for uses other than holding back Undead this was actually a rather minor ability unless the campaign was undead-centric. The fact that the Paladin, due to being treated as a cleric two levels lower, rarely succeeded except against minor undead (for the Pal's level) made it even less of a useful ability. But it was still oo'd and ah'd over due to the fact that it was a new ability that was thematically interesting and potentially useful - even if only as a back-up cleric for such situations. Later, when divine feats came out that made further uses of Turn Undead, it became even more interesting, but that doesn't mean it wasn't seen as interesting before. A ranger gaining a special that allows them to track at normal speed without penalty (rather than half speed) will rarely see usage outside of a wilderness-centric campaign, but that doesn't mean the player won't like it. So long as every few sessions they get a chance to use it - or the lack of penalty it grants in that situation makes the difference - then the player won't mind at all (that they gained a rather minor 'fill in the blank' special). Actually, I hadn't even read the article until after reading this post of yours. I was just working under the assumption of identifying 'dead levels' based on when or when not anything other than skill points was gained. Personally, I would love it if WotC redid all the classes to better balance them - and left no blank spaces. But I see that as utterly unlikely until 4e comes out in a few years time (at least, I hope it doesn't come out for a few years! ).</blockquote>

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