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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9484275" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Yes. In a way that actively conflicts with and denies reality. That's the whole point. It absolutely IS a meta-decision, specifically for that reason.And see, this is exactly where I see a straight-up hypocritical contradiction. There is no difference between these two things. Yet you claim that one is fine, if a little weird, while the other is absolutely, totally verboten.Doing something four times between ~two combats vs doing it once between each combat is not that different. Yet somehow you think they are WORLDS apart, even though--other than happening somewhere between "twice as often" and "about as often"--they are exactly the same.Unless and until you can articulate a real difference between these things, your position is in no way a commentary on the nature of the abilities. It's a complaint about which edition published them.You didn't need to interpret them that way in 4e either. Yet you chose to then. That's the point."No, it isn't!"We can play the "I just reject what you say" game forever, but I consider it pretty pointless to do so. I articulated why. If you're actually going to respond, as in, taking the argument seriously and addressing why it's wrong, then I'm all ears. Until then? I'm going to take such meaningless responses as evidence you don't actually have an argument.That is precisely why you can't feel them!You can feel an image of them. You can model an approximation of them. But you cannot feel those exact same feelings. They are, always and inherently, at an arm's length from you. It would be a mental illness to ACTUALLY feel those feelings 100% as if they were really happening to you, because that would mean you couldn't actually distinguish imagination from reality."Get really close" = "actually there." That's...kind of the point. This isn't a mathematical limit. There is always, always a gap, so long as you aren't mistaking imagination for reality. And God, I certainly hope you aren't doing that.</blockquote>

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