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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9485627">No, they might not... Or they might when new products for the same game keep coming out with continued advertising and influencing. Or they might when the group they play in want to play it and have no other viable option.Sure, but that isn't the case here, and I don't know many who would argue it is (at least not here). You get those arguments enough on other forums.Boy, it SURE is!!! I'm glad I never said that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />5E isn't the most popular due to its design. It is popular because of several factors, and design is not primary one IMO. Just how much design does contribute we can never truly know. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" />My point is that other factors, such as the powerful advertizing and influencing, the relaxed attitude towards RPGs and more common acceptance it has now, along with the power of the Internet, ease of acces to products in areas which never had them before, and many others all contribute to its popularity and success.How much someone likes its design is entirely subjective. Overall, I personally put it in 2nd place behind 2nd Edition. Many people put it 1st, but many of those have never even been exposed to other editions of D&amp;D, let alone played them! The very success of other RPGS, OSR material, A5E, etc. show there are indeed many people who don't find 5E to be the solution to what they want.&quot;That simple&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9485627"] No, they might not... Or they might when new products for the [I]same game[/I] keep coming out with continued advertising and influencing. Or they might when the group they play in want to play it and have no other viable option. Sure, but that isn't the case here, and I don't know many who would argue it is (at least not [I]here[/I]). You get those arguments enough on other forums. Boy, it SURE is!!! I'm glad I never said [I]that[/I]. :) 5E isn't the most popular due to its design. It is popular because of several factors, and design is not primary one IMO. Just how much design does contribute we can never truly know. 🤷‍♂️ My point is that other factors, such as the powerful advertizing and influencing, the relaxed attitude towards RPGs and more common acceptance it has now, along with the power of the Internet, ease of acces to products in areas which never had them before, and many others [I]all[/I] contribute to its popularity and success. How much someone likes its design is [I]entirely[/I] subjective. Overall, I personally put it in 2nd place behind 2nd Edition. Many people put it 1st, but many of those have never even been exposed to other editions of D&D, let alone played them! The very success of other RPGS, OSR material, A5E, etc. show there are indeed many people who don't find 5E to be the solution to what they want. "That simple". ;) [/QUOTE]

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