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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9486139"><p>You've made clear you <em>really</em> aren't reading my posts if that is what you continue to get from them. You might not agree with my basis, but to say my conclusions have no basis is incredibly insulting.</p><p></p><p>And I seem to see myself responding to remarks, not ignoring them. I can certainly disagree with them, which in some of these cases I do, and given responses such as this one I am tempted to walk away. I don't see your view point wavering any more than mine, but I don't say you have no basis--even if I don't agree with them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, I've been the one expounding on this points.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They helped 3E more than enough! It was wildly popular and successful and the first to truly benefit from the Internet explosioin (2E saw a little, but nothing widespread like 3E and later editions have had--growing more and more with each edition!).</p><p></p><p>4E I cannot say, I wasn't playing D&D then and never tried it. Judging from other peoples' posts, some loved it for whatever reasons, and other didn't. 4E seems to me a care of "poor" design leading to its poor performance in the long run. That said, I am sure there are many people who loved it, still love it, play it, and likely don't care much for 5E due to the shift in design from 4E.</p><p></p><p></p><p>LOL not at all. There are tons of TTPRGs out there gamers have <em>never</em> heard of, let alone seen in action or played. Those other TTRPGs do not have nearly the same clout of marketing, branding, or influencing 5E has.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Great, I was clarifying it for someone else. I figured you understood it a while ago, but judging from some of your responses I wonder if you really did? (see above)</p><p></p><p></p><p>You have no idea what "millions of other people" do or don't agree with any more than I have. This is all about our personal opinions and insights--nothing more or less.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Do you? You asked every one? Showed them the thread, my posts, and all of it? I highly doubt that.</p><p></p><p>Now, you might believe that, but frankly speaking it makes no difference to me really. They aren't here. Others here have agreed and disagreed with me. Which is cool. It's just a discussion and there is no way we will ever--ever--know the truth of the issue. And anyone who thinks they "know the truth" instead of just state their own views is a fool IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9486139"] You've made clear you [I]really[/I] aren't reading my posts if that is what you continue to get from them. You might not agree with my basis, but to say my conclusions have no basis is incredibly insulting. And I seem to see myself responding to remarks, not ignoring them. I can certainly disagree with them, which in some of these cases I do, and given responses such as this one I am tempted to walk away. I don't see your view point wavering any more than mine, but I don't say you have no basis--even if I don't agree with them. Actually, I've been the one expounding on this points. They helped 3E more than enough! It was wildly popular and successful and the first to truly benefit from the Internet explosioin (2E saw a little, but nothing widespread like 3E and later editions have had--growing more and more with each edition!). 4E I cannot say, I wasn't playing D&D then and never tried it. Judging from other peoples' posts, some loved it for whatever reasons, and other didn't. 4E seems to me a care of "poor" design leading to its poor performance in the long run. That said, I am sure there are many people who loved it, still love it, play it, and likely don't care much for 5E due to the shift in design from 4E. LOL not at all. There are tons of TTPRGs out there gamers have [I]never[/I] heard of, let alone seen in action or played. Those other TTRPGs do not have nearly the same clout of marketing, branding, or influencing 5E has. Great, I was clarifying it for someone else. I figured you understood it a while ago, but judging from some of your responses I wonder if you really did? (see above) You have no idea what "millions of other people" do or don't agree with any more than I have. This is all about our personal opinions and insights--nothing more or less. Do you? You asked every one? Showed them the thread, my posts, and all of it? I highly doubt that. Now, you might believe that, but frankly speaking it makes no difference to me really. They aren't here. Others here have agreed and disagreed with me. Which is cool. It's just a discussion and there is no way we will ever--ever--know the truth of the issue. And anyone who thinks they "know the truth" instead of just state their own views is a fool IMO. [/QUOTE]
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