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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9486665">Of course--like babies. I find most babies ugly, but I know most people find them "adorable" or whatever. The whole "big eye" thing is common across species in infants, and why many people find it agreeable in some anime, for instance.Which is nothing related to what I was talking about... Perhaps it was part of your discussion with others upthread?Her features have a symmetry generally acknowledged as beautiful, along with her smile, complextion, etc. The items you point out seem more like the reasons for lacking attraction, not beauty.Actually, beauty often does have objective measures, like the symmetry in a person's face, for example. Modern art might also--I am not an "art person" so I really can't tell you, but I think it likely.Yep. This is a perfect example of why Charisma impacted Comliness in AD&D 1E.Most of my girlfriends were never "beautiful" by the typical standard, but those imperfections where what I found attractive. And I've also been in the position where someone's character either increased or decreased my attraction to them--and regardless of that they continued to be either beautiful or not (as the case was), because in beauty is not as subjective as most people like to think IMO. Attraction, on the other hand, is very subjective.</blockquote>