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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4441422" data-attributes="member: 7635">Sorry, but I saw the opposite as well.Before, I saw a lot of this.1.) Fighter moves up, then proceeds to full-attack something to death.2.) Wizard hides a country-mile back, nuking from orbit.3.) Rogue does flank/SA if the foes were relatively weak, otherwise goes all bow-archer on large/scary foes.4.) Cleric stands near fighter, casting a cure spell a round (occasionally attacking when the fighter's foe missed)5.) The bard stayed back at the tavern, singing and granting his allies a +2 to hit while simultaneously hitting on the busty bar wenches.Now?The fighter Tide of Irons his foe toward the rogue, who uses his attack to get CA then shift away. The wizards still hanging back, but he's tied up a couple foes with sleep and ray of frost. The cleric is boosting the fighters or rogues to hit while also engaging a foe. PCs are moving to get into position. They are paying attention to terrain, using choke points to slow the wave of minions swarming and pushing foes into pits because it removes them from the fight faster than a basic attack would.In essence, they are moving, acting, looking for advantages, and helping each other out. They have more choices to make (do I use my second wind? Are we losing enough to use my daily?) and since I encourage Page 42-style actions (by setting reasonable DCs for cool moves, but hard DCs for ones that are trying to juke the system) PCs are much more willing to wing it and try something NOT on their sheets rather than "look up combat manuever X" in the PHB.</blockquote>

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