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<blockquote data-quote="ThoughtBubble" data-source="post: 2287023" data-attributes="member: 9723">Celebrim, we're not too far apart on this. I like the shadow dancer for pretty much all the reasons you do. I dislike the blackguard for being 'a lv 20 evil paladin in 10 levels. With Sneak Attack.' And funnily enough, I was going to point out that I was more bugged by feats, but my arguements for disliking them are fairly similar to some of the anti-PRC arguements. So I know where you're coming from, and mostly agree.However, when I said that breaking the PRC into a series of feats, I wasn't saying anything about the power of the class compared to a normal one. Simply that a feat gained every third level (theoretically to add a bit of customization or flair to a character) and a class ability (theoretically the core of what this character will be doing) can't necessarrally be corresponded to on a one to one ratio. A class that's only special ability was to get the standard 1 feat per 3 levels would be a pretty substandard class, wouldn't you say? If so, then isn't any class whos abilities can be subsumed into 1 feat every three levels would have to be substandard. Now, moving towards a system where you had base classes, and far more customization within those via feats is about what Blue Rose did (which looks like a pretty slick system). As it is though, the amount of openness in D20 modern intimidates my players (I made their characters for them based off of descriptions). Most wouldn't know how to react to even more options.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ThoughtBubble, post: 2287023, member: 9723"] Celebrim, we're not too far apart on this. I like the shadow dancer for pretty much all the reasons you do. I dislike the blackguard for being 'a lv 20 evil paladin in 10 levels. With Sneak Attack.' And funnily enough, I was going to point out that I was more bugged by feats, but my arguements for disliking them are fairly similar to some of the anti-PRC arguements. So I know where you're coming from, and mostly agree. However, when I said that breaking the PRC into a series of feats, I wasn't saying anything about the power of the class compared to a normal one. Simply that a feat gained every third level (theoretically to add a bit of customization or flair to a character) and a class ability (theoretically the core of what this character will be doing) can't necessarrally be corresponded to on a one to one ratio. A class that's only special ability was to get the standard 1 feat per 3 levels would be a pretty substandard class, wouldn't you say? If so, then isn't any class whos abilities can be subsumed into 1 feat every three levels would have to be substandard. Now, moving towards a system where you had base classes, and far more customization within those via feats is about what Blue Rose did (which looks like a pretty slick system). As it is though, the amount of openness in D20 modern intimidates my players (I made their characters for them based off of descriptions). Most wouldn't know how to react to even more options. [/QUOTE]

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