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<blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 2289898" data-attributes="member: 22622">The class systems are based on career paths.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a rogue, YOu've gained these skills and abilities through your life so far (up to first level).&nbsp; LIke I said, you can be a fighter steal some things and get some hide to hide around, but (D and D definitionally) you're not a rogue or anywhere near the class because you havn't gained the abilities that are preagreed that all roguish characters have. What you're asking is, why do the rules do this why can't we just do what we want to do.&nbsp; And by all means if its your game and if you want to put the chance money under free parking then you can do whatever you wish.&nbsp; But, if you play by the rules hten you got to follow the rules and understand why the rules are there and written.&nbsp; This reminds of a time i went to a game convention and there was this guy there wanting people to play his &quot;new rpg&quot;.&nbsp; His pitch was aweful.&nbsp; You can do whatever you want, you're not limited to classes or races.&nbsp; Whatever you want you can do. He had wrote up rules for osme of the things you suggested.&nbsp;&nbsp; Well without rules there's no challenge.&nbsp; Heck its not even a game.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you want to build a character I say stay within the confines of the game wheather its for character background or power playing.&nbsp; If there are rules to play a rogue follow them.&nbsp; IF ther are rules to play a dragon knight follow them.&nbsp; There are so many rules in d and d that are questionable, but when you start questioning the very basic stuff like base classes, you're probably playing the wrong system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DonTadow, post: 2289898, member: 22622"] The class systems are based on career paths. As a rogue, YOu've gained these skills and abilities through your life so far (up to first level). LIke I said, you can be a fighter steal some things and get some hide to hide around, but (D and D definitionally) you're not a rogue or anywhere near the class because you havn't gained the abilities that are preagreed that all roguish characters have. What you're asking is, why do the rules do this why can't we just do what we want to do. And by all means if its your game and if you want to put the chance money under free parking then you can do whatever you wish. But, if you play by the rules hten you got to follow the rules and understand why the rules are there and written. This reminds of a time i went to a game convention and there was this guy there wanting people to play his "new rpg". His pitch was aweful. You can do whatever you want, you're not limited to classes or races. Whatever you want you can do. He had wrote up rules for osme of the things you suggested. Well without rules there's no challenge. Heck its not even a game. If you want to build a character I say stay within the confines of the game wheather its for character background or power playing. If there are rules to play a rogue follow them. IF ther are rules to play a dragon knight follow them. There are so many rules in d and d that are questionable, but when you start questioning the very basic stuff like base classes, you're probably playing the wrong system. [/QUOTE]

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