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<blockquote data-quote="Ravellion" data-source="post: 2290938" data-attributes="member: 538">Dragonlance Spoilers for Dragons of Spring Dawning coming up.I once had a player who wanted to become the best ice mage of the land. He took the Elemental Savant PrCl.Four months later he emailed me a home brewed PrCl he found on the net. It was called something like &quot;the Master of Ice&quot;, not too unbalanced, but it had bad templating and was a bit on the powerful side (adding yet more DC to his Ice spells, which would add up with Elemental Savant and Spell Focus (+2) and Greater Spell Focus(+4)). It also had a once a day &quot;Flesh to Ice&quot; like ability. I said he couldn't take it. Big arguments ensued. He said &quot;But I want to be the Master of Ice&quot;. I said &quot;What do you need that class for then?&quot;. He didn't quite understand at first.He was a Dragonlance Fan. I showed him some stats for Raistlin. I asked him &quot;Is Raistlin the Master of Past and Present?&quot;. He got the point from then on.Thing is, I know players like that are far from unique. So do PrCl stifle creativity? Well, they do for some people. He never thought of the idea to ask for a &quot;Flesh to Ice&quot; spell instead of his &quot;Flesh to Stone&quot;. He never dubbed himself &quot;The Master of Ice Eternal&quot; or something like that.And killing creativity for some people was enough of a reason for me to remove PrCl for most of my subsequent games.Rav</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ravellion, post: 2290938, member: 538"] Dragonlance Spoilers for [i]Dragons of Spring Dawning[/i] coming up. I once had a player who wanted to become the best ice mage of the land. He took the Elemental Savant PrCl. Four months later he emailed me a home brewed PrCl he found on the net. It was called something like "the Master of Ice", not too unbalanced, but it had bad templating and was a bit on the powerful side (adding yet more DC to his Ice spells, which would add up with Elemental Savant and Spell Focus (+2) and Greater Spell Focus(+4)). It also had a once a day "Flesh to Ice" like ability. I said he couldn't take it. Big arguments ensued. He said "But I want to be the Master of Ice". I said "What do you need that class for then?". He didn't quite understand at first. He was a Dragonlance Fan. I showed him some stats for Raistlin. I asked him "Is Raistlin the Master of Past and Present?". He got the point from then on. Thing is, I know players like that are far from unique. So do PrCl stifle creativity? Well, they do for some people. He never thought of the idea to ask for a "Flesh to Ice" spell instead of his "Flesh to Stone". He never dubbed himself "The Master of Ice Eternal" or something like that. And killing creativity for some people was enough of a reason for me to remove PrCl for most of my subsequent games. Rav [/QUOTE]

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