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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 1177023" data-attributes="member: 463">Well, full plate, large shield and DEX 13 gives AC 21 - 1st level warriors might _still_ only hit on a 20!&nbsp; I find that 'low fantasy' settings actually require tougher mooks as well as less magic-heavy heroes - ie veteran guards need to be 5th level warriors rather than 1st, to threaten even a magic-less Fighter PC.I agree entirely that there's plenty of real life cases of people who keep fighting despite serious injury, sometimes being shot 20 times or more.&nbsp; If there's a problem with D&amp;D it's more that it's _impossible_ to kill the hero with the crossbow bolt, not that it probably won't kill him.&nbsp; Another problem is that weapon damage doesn't scale right, especially for larger missile weapons like heavy crossbows and even ballistae, the damage is pathetic compared to lighter weapons.&nbsp; While there are plenty of real world tales of knights who keep fighting with a dozen shortbow arrows in them, no one keeps fighting with a dozen ballista bolts in them!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 1177023, member: 463"] Well, full plate, large shield and DEX 13 gives AC 21 - 1st level warriors might _still_ only hit on a 20! I find that 'low fantasy' settings actually require tougher mooks as well as less magic-heavy heroes - ie veteran guards need to be 5th level warriors rather than 1st, to threaten even a magic-less Fighter PC. I agree entirely that there's plenty of real life cases of people who keep fighting despite serious injury, sometimes being shot 20 times or more. If there's a problem with D&D it's more that it's _impossible_ to kill the hero with the crossbow bolt, not that it probably won't kill him. Another problem is that weapon damage doesn't scale right, especially for larger missile weapons like heavy crossbows and even ballistae, the damage is pathetic compared to lighter weapons. While there are plenty of real world tales of knights who keep fighting with a dozen shortbow arrows in them, no one keeps fighting with a dozen ballista bolts in them! [/QUOTE]

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